"Guns, games and violence: The real questions you should be asking" Nothing More than a Putrid Pile of Scaremongering BS

Looking through twitter made me realize that The Moral Panic on video game violence after Orlando keeps being fueled by BS Like this:

https://archive.is/SKJLi#selection-1161.0-1161.65

It is an article that argues that video games with real guns turn kids into people who want to be gun owners and shoot real guns. It's really stupid and filled with fear mongering, scapegoating and flat out BS.... BS like this.

"When my son was 12 he was, like most teens his age, a huge fan of Call of Duty.

We often played the game together, and I firmly believe that the violence inherent in that game never had any negative impact on his ability to understand right from wrong or feel empathy, or that it made him want to act out those matches of gunplay in real life.

But what it did do, absolutely did, was make him an expert in firearms, or at least how these real-world weapons performed in a virtual setting.

His ability to discuss the difference between, for instance, an AK-12 and a Remington R5 wasn't just about how they looked or which one his friend used, but delved into a level of detail that was, for me, chilling.

He understood their comparative fire rates, accuracy, stopping power, the sorts of attachments each could use and how they would impact his ability to virtually kill.

In discussing weapons with either my father or stepfather, both staunch NRA members and former military men, he could dazzle them with a nuance of knowledge that children his age, when I was a child, usually pulled from the back of a baseball card."

 This is complete BS, it tries to say that playing call of duty will turn kids into gun nuts. It's crazy crap that is completely non backed up by any hard fact other than this claim. Number 1, the claim has no evidence to even say it's true, number 2, there are all problems with the idea that games are to blame here, but I'll get into them later.

 

"Over time he began to ask me about taking him shooting, so he could see what it was like to fire a real weapon.

As someone who spent a decade and a half covering crime and the evils people can do to one another with guns and a diabolical assortment of other items, as a uncle whose teenage niece was killed by an ex-boyfriend with a gunshot to the head, I'm not a gun owner, or really a fan of guns.

But somehow my son was steering toward becoming both.

He's since moved on, trading his enthusiasm for guns with an interest in knives powered by Counter-Strike: GO and its many colorful skins."

He then says violent video games are turning his kid into a gun nut. But in reality. it's his stupid decision to let his 12 YEAR OLD PLAY CALL OF DUTY that is causing this.  There is only one person to blame here, the writer! He is the one being a crappy parent and blaming a game for something he did, LET HIS 12 YEAR OLD KID PLAY A SUPER VIOLENT GAME MEANT FOR 18 YEAR OLDS....

"But that early fascination with gunplay and the nuance of gun ownership in the United States was most certainly driven by some games' obsessive level of detail in presenting warfare and shooting"

No you stupid fucking brainwashed fuck, it was your choice to let him play Call of Duty an adult at age 12 that did this, you fucking idiot!

"This fetishization of guns in play doesn’t just bring with it a level of knowledge arguably unnecessary for young teens, it also normalizes the idea of gunplay and gun ownership without bringing with it the necessary care and instruction that should go along with gun ownership."

Now the idiot tries to say violent games are "fetishizing" guns and that that "feitishization" is normalizing the ownership of guns... More BS.

Number 1, if this shit was true, most gamers would want to be, or would be gun owners. Now how do you explain TONS of gamers bashing the NRA for bashing violent games after sandy hook, or condemning gun owners for bashing violent games. That completely goes against this argument that Violent games with guns turn people into gun owners. If they were gun owners, do you think they would do that (attack the NRA)? HELL NO! I've played MORE games, at a YOUNGER age than the kid in this article. I started with Wolfenstein 3D, a game that "feitishizes" Naziism to a huge degree, to the point where it is disgusting, and then followed that up with Doom, a game that is "so violent" that people have blamed it for columbine more than anyone else. I have literally become obsessed with Doom. I then followed up that with playing EVERY single major FPS out there from 1992 to 2000. 10 Years of games that "fetishize" guns. Do I want to be come a gun owner? Fuck no. Real guns disgust me. I don't want to become "obsessed" with things that can really kill. I have no interest in real guns, whatsoever! I have played tons of games taking place in wars, games far more extreme than the tame crap that is call of duty. It didn't affect me this way. And there are tons like me. Tons of gamers who are NOT gun owners and DONT want to become gun owners. The claim that games with guns makes kids want to become gun owners, is BS!

Another thing about this article that disgusts me is he is comparing Games with guns to sexual fetishes, by using the word "fetishizes" to describe games that just happen to have guns in them, to condemn them for being as "evil" as sexual fetishes (even though sexual fetishes are as harmless as masturbating). People like this attack shit like sexual fetishes and guns and games, to try to make the argument that a harmless thing is as harmful as shooting up a school (for guns in games), or raping a woman (for sexual fetishes).  It's pro-radical manfeminist cockwad BS that sexual fetishes are as harmful and lead to rape. By comparing something harmless to something supposedly (but not really harmful), this article is doing tons of scaremongering. I see tons of people using the word "fetishizes" violence in circles responcible for the creation of idiots like the one who wrote the article. Even on a comment on another article trying to say that gamers are murder obsessed (another lie), the commenter used "Fetishists" to describe gamers...

"Often, gunplay in games is stripped of all danger both real and virtual: You can’t trip and shoot yourself or drop a gun and kill a friend. A child can’t find a firearm laying around in a virtual world and accidentally pull the trigger. They’re not loud. They’re not presented as dangerous or deadly. Instead, gamers can unlock stickers or decorate their guns like children of my generation decorated bikes, skateboards or action figures. Most modern shooters don’t even worry about friendly fire.

In so efficiently designing and redesigning gun games to eek out every drop of fun and minimize any moment of inaction, game designers are accidentally creating the worst sort of games for change."

This idiot then tries to claim that violent games don't teach the dangers of firearms, therefore they are not helping the problem that is gun violence.  He then tries to claim that games where you shoot people are "not fun". More BS by a complete idiot. He then implies that games must be changed to get rid of guns in them. The Problem is that games like Call of Duty that have "realistic" looking guns are rare in shooters. I know from experience that a LOT of games have Futuristic or unrealistic guns. In games like this, the "nightmare" scenario mentioned in this article cannot happen because the guns are not based on real ones.  Here are the games I know use realistic guns:

Wolfenstein Games
Half-life
Far Cry Games
Call of Duty Games
Stalker Games
Serious Sam 3 : BFE
Some Other Tactical Shooters (American Army, Battlefield, Counterstrike, etc)

Now here are games that don't do this.

Doom
Heretic
Hexen
ROTT
Duke3d
Dark Forces
Jedi Knight
Quake
Quake II
Quake III
Unreal
Unreal Tournament
Serious Sam
Serious Sam : Second Encounter
Serious Sam XBOX
Serious Sam : Next Encounter
Serious Sam 2
Will Rock
Painkiller
Painkiller : Battle out of hell
Painkiller : Overdose
Halo
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo 4
Any Other Halo Game
Mass Effect
Mass Effect 2
Mass Effect 3
Fallout
Fallout 2
Fallout 3
Fallout : New Vegas
Fallout 4
F.E.A.R - They look realistic but they are fictitious
F.E.A.R. 2 - ditto
F.E.A.R. 3 - ditto

See a pattern? More games actually do NOT use "realistic" weapon models than ones that do.

Now To Address that "these shooting games" are not good games for the stupid "games of change movement" and that games need to be "changed" to get rid of guns totally...

 

HELLO! It's not YOUR call, what developers put in THEIR Games. They are not YOUR games, they are THEIR Games. If THEY think A game where you gun down terrorists is fun, YOU can't tell them that they don't have the right to do that. It's not your call. Fuck off!

Once again. idiots like this moron completely piss me off. They don't advocate for censorship, and don't say the obvious "video games cause real life violence, WAHHHHH" BS, but they make up complete BS to attack games nonetheless, and they deserve to be publicly shame for being suck cockwads.

People like this threaten an entertainment form. They endanger it by creating a new generation of game haters. All of twitter, people like this have gotten E3 Watchers to HATE gun violent in games now. These people are doing REAL damage to the industry. There are TONS of tweets bashing video game violence after Orlando, and some are by supposed Gamers (allthough someone playing Farmville and Gone Home should not count as being a gamer! - they aren't good games). People like this can write their own articles and influence others. It can cause them to spread a moral panic. It is already happening. This article is only a few hours old and look what they are doing with it now on twitter:

 

 

 People need to fight this BS. Fortunately, with this article (unlike the last one) people ARE actually exposing it as BS. But that is not enough. Someone has to condemn the BS spreaders who spread nonsense and publicly shame them too. Calling it out is only the first step. Publicly shame idiots that do crap like this gamers, they deserve it!

 

Loser on Twitter tries to HIJACK #NoBillNoBreak to Attack Violent Games

Ok... Today the Senators decided to "hold Republicans Hostage" for a 21 hour Filibuster to try to get Gun Control Legislation Passed.. They set up a Hashtag on twitter for this : #NoBillNoBreak

Now why am I mentioning this?

Some idiots are using these stupid hashtags to feed FALSE INFO to the senators now. FALSE INFO that bashes violent games.  Like this tweet:

The tweet in question links to the following extremely flawed study...

The Study Attempts to use Heart Rate and GSR to "prove" violent games make people "desensitized" to "Real Life" Violence.  That's complete Bunk. Number 1, video games can make people "desensitized" to video game violence, but since fake violence in a video game is not the same as "real" violence there is no way a game can desensitize a person to "real life" violence because they are different.

But the real problem with this study is it's trying to use measurements from areas OUTSIDE the brain to prove "desensitization" to real life violence. Your reaction to a real life violence can't be measured that way at all. It's complete nonsense. Since "desensitization" is a brain thing, measuring those two things makes no sense... Seeing Real life violence doesn't shock people enough to raise their heart rate or GSR.  And even if that was true, there are other factors that can cause those two things to happen, so seeing those two results doesn't really prove violent games "desensitize" people to real life violence. It's a hack, a completely crazy one too.

But what really pisses me off is idiots like "My Atlanta Tweeps" trying to HIJACK a gun control debate to legislate their version of morality where violent games get banned or censored. It's sick. Violent games don't cause real life violence, that's BS I have debunked tons of times before. There are even studies proving this now. I am not making this up. There is even a study that disproves the whole idea that video games desensitize people to real life violence as well. You can read it here.

People like this idiot shouldn't be allowed internet access. They try to HIJACK a gun control debate to go after entertainment. They are brainwashed idiots who blindly believe "video games cause real life violence" because they don't know how to question all the fake BS people like the Hack Psychologists on talk shows have spread since Columbine.

EDIT: And we have another loser doing the same thing on twitter, this time wanting all gun violence to be removed from all entertainment that has it (TV, Movies, Video Games)

Republican Senators are trying to Legislate Video Games after Orlando in their Gun Proposal.

Well the sickening reality hits us. A Mass killer killed in the name of Islamic State in Orlando. But that doesn't matter to Chuck Asshole Does it. Chuck Grassley is now trying to sneak Violent Video Game Studies into the Republican Gun Control Senate ammendmant. Reguardless if it's not likely to pass or not, it must be dealt with, FAST. The Senate will vote on it on Wednesday.

Here is the text of the ammendmant in question that is scary.

   (4) the extent to which perpetrators of mass shootings,

     either alleged, convicted, deceased, or otherwise, played 
     violent or adult-themed video games and whether the 
     perpetrators of mass shootings discussed, planned, or used 
     violent or adult-themed video games in preparation of or to 
     assist in carrying out their violent actions;

This allows them to study whether "Alleged" and "otherwise" mass murderers played or discussed violent games and whether they trained on them. Since training on games is impossible (see below), this will attack violent games for a BS claim which isn't true (The Military trains on them - brought up by the hack psychologists in the 90's on talk shows)

It also targets NON Mass Murderers. They will be studying "Alleged" and "otherwise" mass murderers. Anyone can say someone "allegedly" killed people. Hell Adam Lanza's Brother and Youtube Comedian Samuel Hyde count for that because people blamed mass killings on them. The study will study people like this. Since these people never killed, the "alleged" mass murderer clause can be used to study anyone, because they can allegedly say someone killed people based on a rumor and claim they killed... I don't want the senate or the attorney general studying video game violence, especially committed by people who never killed anyone! That's stupid... So I suggest you write to your senators to stop this BS. I need you to. No one else is trying to stop it. Gamepolitics is gone. ESA doesn't care. #Gamergate doesn't give a shit (all they care about is sexism, not video game legislation!). I need you to fight this if you value your damn video games.

IT'S IMPORTANT..

EDIT : It seems the bill has died in congress.. Thanks Gamers. Nice Work! 

 "Hello.

I am writing you with a concern about Chuck Grassley's Senate Ammendmant 

(SA 4751)

I looked at the text of it and it includes a clause to make the Attorney 

General  Study Video Game Violence, including whether a "alleged" mass 

killer (or deceased  one, or convicted one) discussed, played, or "trained" 

on  violent video games.

I feel that doing this underhanded action in a gun control centered

 piece of legislation unfairly blames the gaming industry for mass killings. 

We've been through this time and time again over the years.

In the 1990's we were blamed for columbine. Since then, every mass 

shooting was  blamed on violent games. Studies were done that were 

very flawed and seemed to prove violent games cause aggression. Anti

 Video game activists claimed that this  proved they caused violence, 

not aggression. Later on better studies were done  that proved violent 

games do not cause real life violence. 

By Studying video game violence, Grassley hopes to deflect the 

blame away from  guns and terrorism in general and onto violent 

video games.  The "Discussion of  Violent Games" by "alleged" mass 

killers allows him to target non-violent people  and worse. He also 

wants to find out if games can be used as training tools. The 

short answer is NO.

Many people have gone on TV shows saying that they can, 

but they are all  charletons interested in making money 

(by suing Video Game Companies or Selling  a book that says the 

military uses games to train soldiers) The Following Site however is 

written by someone in the military and completely  debunks the claim. 

I trust it because it's from the military and not from someone 

trying to sell a book....

http://designsynthesis.blogspot.com/2005/03/training-our-kids-to-kill.html

Games are not realistic enough to train to kill with. 

The Ones Adam Lanza and  Klebold/Harris played with certainly 

aren't. Call of Duty and Doom are as far  away from a realistic 

game (defined as one that mimics real life at least close 

to perfectly) as you can get. The guns aren't realistic. They 

don't fire like  real guns, you can't even learn how to properly 

load them with a game like this. 

Doom Especially. Call of duty is a little better but 

it's far from a Realistic 

combat simulator.  And all the other games that the other 

mass killers played 

that are violent are sword fighting games, and since they killed with 

guns, they  don't count. Please do note vote for SA 4751. The Gaming 

Industry  does not need to be  punished in a witch hunt over mass 

shootings (especially Orlando) Caused by  Terrorism."

If you don't fight this, who knows how many senators 

will even see these issues, 

nevermind fight them. 

If it passes they're could be Gaming Legislation next. 

That's disgusting, after a

shooting caused by terrorism... Shit like this needs 

to be stopped. FIGHT IT.

"Can We Talk About Video Game Violence" filled with Anti-Gaming BS and Ad-Hominem Throwing Assfucks

The Article I mentioned yesterday "Can We talk about video game violence" has gotten worse. The Article tried to blame video games for orlando. It also blamed Call of Duty for Sandy Hook and Columbine (Even though Columbine happened long before Call of Duty came out), and tries to say other stupid shit like Loner types will get violent after playing games and worse.

How it's gotten worse is this. A lot of commenters yesterday attacked it bad, but now you are getting tons of supporters attacking them and agreeing with the article.. Like this idiot:

"Just sad to me the amount of opposition to this article. Everything that we do in life has *some* impact on us. Spending hours at a time, over and over again hunting and killing fellow humans in virtual reality will have some effect. The military does not use games and simulators because they are simply *fun*. They use them to acclimate soldiers to violence, to train them to be better shots, etc. We can't reasonbly think that we can raise a generation of millions on killing and shooting and think that the net difference will be 0. As someone who formerly did a lot of gaming, it's just often sad to me that we think we're getting away with nothing."

Once again a complete idiot who tries to say games are used in the military to break down the inhibition to kill, which is a complete BS claim made up by the hack psychologists and debunked by a person in the military, on this blog.

I posted in the article twice. The first time I basically said that Millions of people played Doom and Call of Duty, yet only 3 killed. Then someone posts this crap in return.... the person in question was posting a lot of BS trying to say video games make people violent.

"Doom is probably the most gory of any videogame produced at the time. Shooting people and watching blood spray out is a murder-fetishist's wet dream."

This idiot spews crap about doom which is not true, surprise! And then tries to say violent video games are a "murder-fetishists wet dream".  Number 1, the only fucking people in Doom are zombie soldiers. I can think of Tons of games from "that time" (1999) that are WAY more violent than doom.


Postal - Innocent people killing simulator
Shadow Warrior -  Gorey as hell
Blood -  Same Thing
Quake 2 - Same Thing
Heretic - Really Gorey
Quake - Same Thing
Duke3d - Gorey as hell

Surprise! that makes Doom NOT the most violent game from that time. Even Wolf3D's gore is worse.
And the murder fetishist wet dream sounds like something #fullmcintosh would say. His Comments spew nonsense spread by the Hack Psychologists too. I don't know if he is likening Gamers to Murder Fetishists, but if he is, he is an idiot. Gamers =/= murder fetishists! Fuck that stupid stereotypical crap.

There are other stupid comments on the article now. One tries to say "WAAAAAAH! these games are too violent, they shouldn't be allowed!", and I bet there will be worse

My Other comment basically exposed the article for using multiple sites to spam it on the Internet for moral panic creation purposes. That comment got deleted. I posted the images I will show you below in the comment and it got deleted. Every day more sites and twitter accounts/bots post the article over and over again... It's getting tons of coverage and this may lead to a moral panic now...

Here are images proving that it's been recycled on different sites and spread by TONS of twitter accounts...

Now I don't know why the fuck these people on winbeta want to censor me just like the idiots hosting the site the posted the shitty articles after The UCC Shooting, They Censor any post that tries to expose their agenda. It's stupid.  I personally think that GG should go after this article now. I really don't want to post on it again. It will only lead to more BS Responses now, something I know from experience. I tell the truth and these fucking liars like BSheets and Waethorn spread complete BS to "debunk" things I say which are true. And the further it goes, the more likely they will ingage in ad-hominem threats and such, so I think It's time these people get targeted by other idiots online who are at least Pro-Gaming.


But the author of this article I want to call out now.

Kip, you are a fucking idiot. You're article is filled with lies and BS. You spread it on MULTIPLE SITES and  MULTIPLE Twitter Accounts and BOTS to SPREAD a MORAL PANIC to satisfy your WET DREAM of video game CENSORSHIP after a TERRORIST ATTACK that had NOTHING to do with games. The shooter even called 911 to say "I DID IT FOR ISIS!" in the middle of the shooting. You are STOMPING on the VICTIMS for your own AGENDA. You are a fucktard.

Another BS Filled Article spreading Lies About Violent Games after Orlando (and implies censorship is good)

And I thought this BS train of crappy articles making up stupid claims was done...


Enter THIS Article:


This article is about E3 and  tries to claim that people aren't allowed to Criticize violent entertainment.
That's BS because these fuckwads have tons of tons of sites they infest to do just that, and when one of them, or all of them, makes up nonsense claims they get criticized in return by people who KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

Case and Point, the stupid constant BS surrounding the equally stupid quote by Jonathan Blow.

"The Lesson of E3, the Gaming Industry is trying really hard to make being a mass murderer fun"

The Author of this article tries to claim that this quote got silenced by "armies of violent gamers" but ignores the stupidity of the comment itself. The Comment tries to equate mass murder with a video game where you kill people who try to kill you.  The two are NOT the same asshole!

Mass murder involves killing dozens of Innocent, Defenseless people. NOT people who try to kill you! The two are not the same at all. One is Combat, One is Murder. Is Combat Murder? No. Murder involves intentionally taking a life of someone who is defenseless. The characters in the game are NOT defenseless. They shoot, or stab you if they get the chance to. It's stupid to make a claim that a game like this is mass murder. That is the stupidest thing ever. If there was a game where you went around a pre-school and killed dozens of innocent 3 year olds, and it was shown at E3, that comment by Blowhard would be valid. But since a game like that doesn't exist, his comment is stupid and he deserves "vitriolic"  comments and worse and return.

And so is this writer for saying that Blow got "Vitriolic" responses, for merely Criticizing. Sorry. Blow did more than Criticize. He Made up BS. Complete BS that says a game is the same as mass murder. It's stupid. And so is the writer.

People like blow shouldn't be allowed to spread shit like this. Things like his lies lead to actual moral panics and moral panics lead to censorship.  What do you think an average, Bible Thumping/Gamer Hating Extremist is going to do if they hear that comment. They will contact their Rep asking them to do something about video game violence. Then we get a bunch of fucking idiotic politicians trying to censor an art form. It's happened Before.

Columbine:

A bunch of assholes tried to post a fake Eric Harris AOL Site saying Doom was his primary influence using a fake quote that said "Doom Will Become Reality on April 21". Well... The media spread this nonsense and soon the government got involved and they tried to ban violent games to ADULTS in many states. It failed but they Tried.

Sandy Hook:
A Bunch of Media sites say Adam Lanza Played Call of Duty. The watchers of the media then called their Rep. Soon the Government forced the industry to meet with them to ask them what they (the industry) could do to stop killings. Soon there was a CDC Study on video games to see if there was a correlation between mass killings and them,

UCC Shooting:

Some Fucking Idiot posted a tweet saying the shooter was falsely "confirmed" to be Samuel Hyde, a youtube gamer and Comedian. Soon a HUGE Witch Mob started to attack violent games. This was long before we knew who the real shooter was. Some of these people contacted their rep's and soon the Senators involved attacked violent games again.

See what happens when idiots who spread lies are believed. Those believers contact people who can actually stifle an art form.

Which is worse? Fucking Censorship Enabling Assholes like Blow getting death threats or their fucking wet dream of all video games that offend them getting censored or altered because the government is forcing the games to not be "offensive"/"Sexist"/"Violent"/"anything these mamby pambies don't like".

You tell me.

Another fucking idiot Writer bashes violent video games after the Orlando Shooting

Well.. More Fucking Idiots are jumping on the "Shit on the Graves of the 50 dead in the orlando shooting to bash violent games" bandwagon. Case and point... This Article.



The writer of this article is a fucking moron, who blames violent games for previous shootings that had nothing to do with them, and erroneously says Call of Duty was played by the Columbine Shooters, when that's Impossible (Call of duty wasn't out in 1999 you fucking idiot! Do your fucking research!) And he prefaces it by saying he isn't blaming shootings on games but then implies it's the games fault by saying there is a "connection" between Call of Duty for Columbine and Sandy hook.

First of all you fucking idiot, Columbine was a BOTCHED TERRORIST Attack, done to kill as many a cops as possible to get revenge for a police rape in an arrest for bomb making materials. It had NOTHING to do with games. We don't even know the reason Adam Lanza shot up Sandy Hook, but I don't think It was video games. Video games simply don't have levels where you can get the idea to mass murder a school filled with toddlers and teachers. There are NO games featuring that idea so fuck off.

Idiots like this piss me off. One quote in particular REALLY pisses me off...

"Is on-screen violence pushing some already-troubled problem child over the brink so that gaming companies can make another billion and if so is that okay? Is it okay that gaming companies make their billions by enabling us to take out our aggressions and talk about our “kills” in school or at work the next day?"

No it's not. And it's not the video game's fault if a nutjob goes out and kills people after he plays a video game. He's fucking insane. Video games have nothing to do with things like this. And talking about kills in work is fine. Fuck off.

What really pisses me off is that he quotes Jonathan Blowhard....

 “The lesson of E3: Game studios are working very hard to build fantasies about how cool it is to be a mass murderer.”

This is complete BS. There is a HUGE difference between mass murder and the average combat in a video game. None of the trailers show mass murder. Mass murder involves "innocent", "defenseless" people. Not characters in a video game that fight back. It might be not so obvious to idiots like Kip here but 99% of targets in video games fight back. That doesn't count as murder you idiot.

People like this piss me off. The stretch the truth to bash violent games, something they hate, after a killing that had nothing to do with them. The Orlando shooter called 911 and said "I did it for Isis". That's proof it had nothing to do with video games. Stop being an idiot.

What really pisses me off is that shoddy Journalism like this is being peddled by idiots like these:

 Yes, a PC Repair place is now enabling bashing of violent games after a shooting. Fuck them.


EDIT : The Following Twits are Fucking Spreading a Moral Panic by spreading the same article under the hashtag #technology

Here are more Bots or posters posting the same article I found later on last night/tonight

There are also multiple clones of this article online, just like the last shitty article that followed the UCC Shooting.
http://www.gamerculture.com/lifestyle/can-we-talk-about-video-game-violence-winbeta/
http://www.allcom.se/it-nyheter/can-we-talk-about-video-game-violence/
http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f337/can-we-talk-about-video-game-violence-1140554.html

Stupid Website tries to Blame Doom and Marilyn Manson (And Others) for the Orlando Shooting

Lo And Behold, the Witch Hunt Surrounding Video Games after the Orlando Shooting Got Worse... While Searching for Tweets on twitter, I found someone posting a tweet linking to an article that blames video game violence and Heavy Metal for the Orlando Shooting.



http://www DOT wxa415.com/blorg/2016/6/18/orlando-shooter-inspired-by-violent-video-games-marilyn-manson
(just chasnge the DOT to a .)

Here are Quotes from the article in question:

"As investigators work tirelessly to uncover more facts about the deadly shooting which took place in a packed Orlando nightclub, new evidence has come to light linking the deadly shooter and an obsession with troubling music and video games."

“At the moment we are looking into links between the types of music and video games the shooter was into,” said Director Michael McCollins. “We are still trying to paint as accurate a picture of this attacker as possible.”

"Since the shooting which occurred over a week ago, several high school friends of the shooter have offered their help in the investigation. Those interviewed mentioned the shooter being an “obsessive fan” of the shock rocker, Marilyn Manson and the controversial video game, Doom. The shooter was said to have a room plastered with dark metal acts like Korn, Limp Bizkit, and Eminem."

Only Problem, and it's a major one, is that this "proof" that Omar Mateen played Doom is complete BS, Made up by the article.  The Link mentioned in the article FAILS to mention these "facts". In Fact NO SITE found when searching for "Omar Mateen" + "Doom" Says he was into Doom At All..

Here is the site, that is linked by the site in question claiming to show "new evidence that has come to light"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/14/orlando-gunman-was-a-regular-at-lgbt-nightclub-pulse-before-atta/

Notice something on this site? NO MENTION OF DOOM!





Even the name "Director Micheal McCollins" is not mentioned in the linked article. That was made up too...

It's All BS.


And Thanks to the Idiot on Twitter who linked to this, people will now believe it and it will turn into the next gaming moral panic.

Sites like this need to be pulled from the internet, Seriously. I am sick and tired of sites using a tragedy to push an agenda like "Ban violent games" and worse... The site that did this is named wxa415.com.  I don't know if the writers were the same Asshole ManFeminists/Feminists who tried to blame violent games for the shooting (like theVerge and others), but this is sick... These people are sick. Someone needs to throw these fucks in jail... They write an article Claiming that Doom and marilyn Manson/King Diamond are to Blame (More on that later), and then it gets shared and twitter. Know what will happen next? People will Believe this Shit.  Most people wouldn't try to verify whether this is true or not and just flat out believe it. That is a huge problem, because you will get tons of people blaming Doom for the shooting next. This site just did the stupidest thing ever. They tried to shift the blame away from the real cause (terrorism) and tried to blame video games with FAKE EVIDENCE.

And What the Fuck is up with the site's constant bashing of heavy metal bands. Some of the ones mentioned are complete crap (like Korn, Limp Bizkit and others), but the picture of Marilyn Manson is actually a Picture of King Diamond.  This is disgusting beyond belief. They are trying to Blame King Diamond's music for the massacre, aren't they? Well that is fucked up...

And to bring on the other point I want to bring up, I have to go into rant mode... OK...

RANT MODE ON

I am sick and tired of Doom Being Fucking Blamed for Massacres. Everytime there is some shooting, someone fucking blames Doom. It's Disgusting... Fucking Disgusting... Why can't these fucking idiots stop doing this. I am publicly shaming these assholes now on twitter, both the idiot fucking asshole who shared the article (that wasn't needed you fucktard), and the site itself...

RANT MODE OFF..

But Seriously, shit like this pisses me off to an extreme, because it's been done to death. Doom has been literally blamed countless times for massacres. And if it's the new Doom game, I will be pissed off more... Because that game is awesome...  Fuck these idiots...

Latest Moral Panic on Video Game Violence Started by "Games Journalists"

Several Days ago a Terrorist with possible ISIS Connections committed the Worst Massacre in US History.  No one has tried to fake evidence to say he was a gamer.  That's the good news. (If that did happen, I would be all over it, as usual). But that didn't stop moronic fake "Games Journalists" like the ones in TheVerge and other sources bash video games violence after a massacre happened that had zero, zilch connections to video games.


At the Recent E3, Developers offered there condolences to the victims of the massacre. And that led to a ton of idiots bashing E3 for the "portrayal" of video game violence after a massacre, like there is some unwritten rule that you must never show video game violence, after a massacre. Fuck that rule. They can show what they want. And they shouldn't  feel like they have to offer their condolences. We've been through the shitstorm before. Actual SCIENTIFIC Evidence disproves the idea the video games cause "real life violence".  So these people, these developers should not show any guilt for something they didn't do. But that's exactly what they did, and that attracted idiots like Full Mcintosh, Jonathan BlowMe and others to "comment" on the "link" between video game violence and the massacre...

Then sites controlled by idiots like these pitch in... Like the Verge... I quote:

"First-person shooters have been one of gaming’s most popular genres since their inception in the 1990s, and EA has promoted many shooters at previous E3 conferences. But moving forward with games that find the fun in gun violence, felt, at the theater, strange to say the least. It’s not just the uncomfortable collision of fantasy and reality — the dream world of violence in the auditorium, and the real world of violence outside it — it’s the uncanny monotony they share.
This is the first major press event at E3, a conference that has a reputation for celebrating graphic violence with an adolescent zeal. Throughout the week, we may see publishers of first-person shooters, and other violent games, respond to recent events. But what we really expect every year, like we saw at E3’s conference today, is a familiar, over-rehearsed routine that regurgitates the same ideas in slightly different configurations"

Fuck off Verge. Hope you go out of business....

Here is another idiot spewing nonsense, from the daily beast:

"But no top gaming figures have yet publicly acknowledged the elephant in the convention hall: The unsettling parallels between horrific displays of real world violence like that in Orlando, Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, Sandy Hook, Isla Vista, Charleston, or San Bernardino and the fantasy violence that fuels their multi-billion dollar industry."

WHAT PARELLELS? There are NO parellels between these mass killings and the fantasy violence in the games mentioned.

Orlando = Terrorist attack
Columbine = Failed Terrorist attack by mentally ill bomb maker and his friend who wanted revenge for a police rape in 1998.
Virginia Tech = No Trustworthy connection to video games
Aurora = Shooter played Guitar Hero, that's it./
Sandy Hook = A lot of BS claims Lanza was influenced by games. But all of it is BS
Charlseton = Again, a TERRORIST attack
San Bernadino = Again another TERRORIST attack


Do you see a pattern? TERORRISM is the cause of many of these. NOT VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES. Fuck the Daily Beast, Fuck them.

 

But what is even worse is nonsense spread by "Digital Trends"....

www DOT digitaltrends.com/gaming/violent-games-orlando/


I quote:

"There is an important distinction to be drawn, however, between causation and normalization. Video games (like all forms of popular media) both reflect and inform cultural values, and it’s hard to argue against contemporary mainstream gaming’s loves of violence in general, and guns in particular. Daily bombardment with violent images in our media diet has a subtle, long-term effect of reducing the shock we feel when we encounter it. Even if we intellectually understand its horror, numbing the visceral and emotional reaction to violence makes it easier to write off as “just how the world is.”

This is more BS by idiots.  Number 1, this is indirectly claiming video game violence causes desensitization to real life violence. This point is wrong, stupid, Dumb, idiotic... Real life violence and fictitious violence are two DIFFERENT things. One cannot desensitize someone to the other. That makes no sense, whatsoever.... But again complete douche bags in "newspapers" like these are trying to bring up this flawed "point" again....

Then comes the Idiot I mentioned Above, Jonathan Blow. He is an Indie Game Developer who bashes violent video games by saying the following:

"The lesson of E3: Game studios are working very hard to build fantasies about how cool it is to be a mass murderer."

Blow is a moron.  A game where you gun down hordes of hostile aliens/soldiers/zombies/monsters is NOT the same as a game where you gun down innocent defensless people. He is saying they are the same. They are NOT. Hell.. I can't think of a single game where it REWARDS you for gunning down innocent civilians.  Sure there are games where you kill innocent civilians. But in all or almost all of them they punish that.

Game                                  How it punishes killing innocent people
----------                              ----------------------------------------------------
GTA Series                           Putting  cops on your back
Elder Scrolls Series              Making you guilty of a crime and punishes you severely
Postal  Series                        It doesn't. It's the ONLY Example of what blow is talking about
Duke3d                                 Killing Strippers Spawn Aliens to kill you.


 Fuck off Blow. You are an Idiot.

These people are disgusting. They are using a tragedy as a soapbox to push their stupid ideas, AGAIN. This is not the first time this has happened. But this time, they had help. All the industry execs who "apologized" for their video game violence after the massacre lead to this, this time.

They didn't need to do that. There is ZERO evidence to suggest Omar Mateen was a gamer. NO site claims he was. Just do a google search for "Omar Mateen" + "gamer" and you won't find a thing.  There is no need for this guilt trip by the industry, games didn't make this guy kill 50+ people. Because they can't, because video games don't cause violence. And Because of this stupid guilt trip by the industry, video game violence is back in the crosshairs, AGAIN.